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Heruka:
yeah, wax I know. Japan has also lost MAJOR jobs to China in the 90's. the machinging industry has moved to China. the computer and electronics manufacturing have moved to China.
her'es an interesting link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3187209.stm
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:11:12 pm)

Heruka:
the thing is, 30 years ago there was no need for a cheap labour market. the need for a "cheap labor market" is ficticious. back then cheap labour was houswives working for minimum wage at a facctory making whatever. not foreigners earning 10 cents a day.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:13:04 pm)

Heruka:
back then people of even the lower social class could still earn a living. they can't anymore.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:15:42 pm)

Heruka:
globalalization has destroyed the lower class, and now threatens the middle class. despite what some people claim.
I'd still like to know what "unskilled labor deficit" means. my guess it's what was once respectable jobs. what's left of the factory jobs, construction jobs, basically blue collar jobs that once paid a livable wage.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:18:32 pm)

Heruka:
oh well. at least I 'll have people to talk to while waiting in the bread lines.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:29:44 pm)

Chewing Wax:
Cheap labor won't last forever. It will ballance itself out as the global economy stabalizes. Or maybe that's a complete pipe dream. I think right now it's a correction, not a permanent condition. How long will it last though? 30 years? Then we're screwed. I doubt it though. Look how quickly China is growing, selling us crap.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:37:11 pm)

Heruka:
the westher is clearing nicely. tonight may not be a wash. we still haven't gotten any rain today.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:37:24 pm)

Heruka:
the individual chinese will never be in a position to buy American products. even if they could, they won't.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:38:53 pm)

Chewing Wax:
They'll have to because they are virtually incapable of designing or developing their own technology. Everything is stolen from the west. They can't move on without our ideas, and now that they're in the WTO, we can put the hooks into them and squeeze those red bastards until they're dry.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:42:18 pm)

Chewing Wax:
They're fucking rockets couldn't even fly straight until Westinghouse told them how to compensate for wind. Fucking Westinghouse. They should have the screws put in their heads. All should be in jail. That was thanks to the first Bush administration's love of red china.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:43:26 pm)

Chewing Wax:
their
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:44:02 pm)

Heruka:
I just hope you retain you sense of humour when a strong nor'easter blows over you and your wifes shanty. of course you'll be living on the good side of the shantytown.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:44:05 pm)

Chewing Wax:
They'll be dead Chinese on the Moon before the end of the decade.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:44:31 pm)

Heruka:
or Clitnons desire to send them info on ballistic missiles info in exchange for campaign funds.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:45:18 pm)

Heruka:
I suppose I should get the patio ready.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 4:46:41 pm)

notMangoMan:
Box of Birds is a great album Myk...
I'm off to skin some Mangos, delicious fruit.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 5:37:20 pm)

Queenie:
All I know is that I bought a t-shirt at a concert the other day, and the merch girl proudly told me that all the t-shirts were "sweat shop free".... and the fucking thing started falling apart the first time I wore it.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 6:20:31 pm)

Queenie:
It's a sad day when a four year old in a third world country, earning 10 cents a day for 12 hours of work, makes a better quality t-shirt than we do.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 6:22:28 pm)

Slabor:
actually four year olds are forbidden from work in factories they have to keep the house tidy while the parents and older siblings work
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 6:43:20 pm)

:
It's a sad day when a four year old in a third world country, earning 10 cents a day for 12 hours of work, makes a better quality t-shirt than we do.:

Main Entry: hy·per·bo·le
Pronunciation: hI-'p&r-b&-(")lE
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek hyperbolE excess, hyperbole, hyperbola, from hyperballein to exceed, from hyper- + ballein to throw -- more at DEVIL
Date: 15th century
: extravagant exaggeration (as "mile-high ice-cream cones")
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 7:01:46 pm)

Detlef Sping:
"They'll be dead Chinese on the Moon before the end of the decade." That's excellent.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 9:51:26 pm)

Detlef Sping:
I may base an entire Art piece around that.
(Fri Aug 29, 2003 - 9:52:49 pm)

Decoy:
They'll be dead Chinese at the bottom of an impact crater on the Moon before the end of the decade.

(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 8:11:55 am)

Decoy:
Here's one for you Sping, no charge: "I fell for the 'this t-shirt is sweatshop free bit,' and all I got was this lousy t-shirt."

(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 8:13:15 am)

Decoy:
Cheap labor? There's more to that than meats to eye. Heruka is right, add up everything else we pay to compensate for their lack of health care, auto insurance, housing, and then it looks like they're not all that cheap - unless of course you're them. And then you realize that they are the ones getting the short end when they get paid a dollar an hour. I mean now people want to give them driver's licenses but still not register them with INS. We should pay them three dollars an hour and take a dollar back in taxes. Show them that there's nothing to look forward to in the middle class after all.
(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 8:20:02 am)

Decoy:
So then. Well if all the jobs go overseas for the sake of corporate profits. Then only investors will have any money. I don;t want to think about it anymore.
(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 8:28:50 am)

Myk Murphy:
all we have to do is have every american open an outsourcing business. we'll all sit around and do the payroll paperwork, and take a cut off the top. cocktail parties will be dull, since you won't need to ask "so what do YOU do for a living?" everyone will be an outsourcer.

on another topic entirely, i must say that the band Garbage rocks. a guilty pleasure of excellent production, super catchy hooks, and shirley manson's perfect female rock vocal.
(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 2:22:50 pm)

McLuedt:
If it's not Scottish, it's crap!
(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 3:39:10 pm)

Slobber:
Parody and sarcasm... I'll let you post the definitions if you want. :)
The INS is now the Bureau of Customs and Border Protection or sumthin' like that, part of the DHS
(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 6:47:34 pm)

Immigrant Son.g:
If they are in the payroll they get taxes deducted, and no tax returns if they don't file with the IRS. Since the former INS won't deport them maybe IRS will...
The IRS should stop having to be bilingual, make them learn English if they want a tax return.
(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 6:57:29 pm)

Decoy:
I just got the school tax bill ... $6109.00.
(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 8:44:58 pm)

:
Update the Website you lazy crumb bumbs
(Sat Aug 30, 2003 - 9:11:18 pm)

Queenie:
crumb bum... my mom used to say that all the time.
(Sun Aug 31, 2003 - 2:53:53 am)