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Chewing Wax:
It's true
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 6:06:56 pm)

This rugged all-season jacket has all the great features of the Beaufort Jacket, but it’s made 5" longer (38" in size 42) so you can wear it over a sport coat or with a suit. Made of medium weight waterproof and thornproof cotton fabric with a storm-fly front and internal drip strip. Corduroy collar and 100% cotton tartan lining for comfort; Accommodates optional snap-in liner and hood. Plenty of cargo capacity: two large bellows pockets with removable liners, two moleskin-lined hand-warmer pockets, concealed zip-up wallet pocket, and inside breast pocket. Two-way zipper. Color: sage. Cold sponge, no soap. England.
Even sizes: 34-52.
$365.00 Border Jacket (SI726G)
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 6:23:42 pm)

Heruka:
That's a nice jacket.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 6:41:11 pm)

Decoy:
Yes, it is nice.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 6:51:05 pm)

Decoy:
Don't worry Wax, she's starting to cook for the beachhouse. Meatballs and sauce are on the list.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 6:51:47 pm)

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Meatballs
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 8:54:49 pm)

Chewing Wax:
Mmmm.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 9:06:04 pm)

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will sail for meatballs.

(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 9:14:06 pm)

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Over ten thousand German-Americans were indeed rounded up, along with over ten thousand Italian-Americans. This is simply an historical fact. Apart from the German and Italian-Americans who were put in detention centers, confined to military bases, or confined under house arrest, hundreds of American citizens of German descent were arrested and put on trial for operating pro-German political organizations, writing pro-German articles, publishing pro-German newsletters, or just giving some hint at some time that they were actively pro-German. These people were put on trial for seditious conspiracy, only the second time (at that point) in our country's history when Americans were put on trial for sedition (the first being President John Adam's persecution of his political foes).

The facts of the roundup of Germans and the arrest and trial of suspected German "fifth columnists" are well known and not disputed. There have been dozens of books written on the subject (may I recommend "A Trial on Trial," National Civil Rights Committee, 1945; "Treason Trial," by William Schofield, Rand-McNally, 1964; "It's a Secret," by Henry Hoke, Reynal and Hitchcock, 1946; and the History Channel's 1996 documentary, "Italian-American Internment, a Secret Story").

An excellent December 20, 1991, editorial on the subject was written by Dallas Morning News op-ed editor Richard Estrada. To quote from it briefly: "Veteran NBC newsman John Chancellor asserted that while 75,000 Japanese-Americans were 'rounded up' after Pearl Harbor, the U.S. government did not subject people of European origin to this treatment...In sum, Mr. Chancellor distorted history.... Mr. Chancellor might want to ask Mr. Arthur D. Jacobs, a German-American now residing in Tempe, Arizona, for his perspective. Along with his family, Mr. Jacobs was kept behind barbed wire as a child in Texas during World War Two. The veteran commentator might proceed to get an Italian-American viewpoint from the family of former New York Yankee baseball slugger Joe DiMaggio, of from that of former Baltimore Colts defensive standout Gino Marchetti."

German and Italian Americans and resident aliens were indeed rounded up as Japanese-Americans and Japanese resident aliens were. Obviously, many more Japanese were treated this way, but that doesn't mean that one can or should deny that it also happened to Germans. And, indeed, it was only German-Americans who were arrested and imprisoned on the sedition charge. Japanese-Americans were spared that particular mistreatment.

(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 9:48:36 pm)

(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 9:56:37 pm)

Decoy:
Boooooo.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 10:20:25 pm)

Heruka:
It's astounding. I'm doing research on German camps. There are many people complaing still about the Jap camps, and thes people go on the whine about how it was racist that there were no German or Italian camps. Stupid people. Even a LA Times article that I came acroos denied the existance of these camps. Hey Decoy, perhaps if we yell loud enough, we can get cash from the Government. Like tha Japs did. Was any of your family internned? My grandfather was. Ignorance isn't a bliss, it's a whining lefty.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 10:22:31 pm)

Heruka:
Oh hello.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 10:22:43 pm)

Decoy:
Your buddy Michael Moore was on the Oscars for his bowling for dollars movie.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 10:29:08 pm)

Heruka:
He was on Lou Dobbs. and When Lou Dobbs asked him about the "glaring inaccuracies" in his book, his excuse was the book is humour. and not neccesarily fact. Yeah, like his readers are smart eough to differentiate the two. shees. talk about brainwashing.
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 10:33:06 pm)

Heruka:
he's a fat slob who uses peoples ignorance to make them believe things that he thinks they should think. As a Jap would say: "he's a fat stupid American"!
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 10:38:47 pm)

Queenie:
I missed the Michael Moore bit. And when the FUCK did Richard Harris die?!?!?
(Sun Mar 23, 2003 - 11:51:06 pm)

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Workers World is more than a newspaper. It reflects the views of Workers World Party, which was formed in 1959.

We bring you news about many different kinds of struggles and issues, checked and documented for accuracy. We also bring you a viewpoint. All newspapers do, but the corporate press don't admit they do it.

What is our basic view? We're for socialism. We think that ownership of the tremendous productive wealth built up by hundreds of millions of workers can't remain in the hands of a privileged few.

The capitalist profit system is unplanned and irrational. It's wrecking the world. Improved technology brings layoffs and poverty, not comfort and lighter work. Booms lead to busts.

The competition for markets produces devastating wars and environmental destruction. Fabulous wealth alongside deep poverty poisons all human relations, stimulating racism and other blame-the-victim ideologies.

We put our ideas into practice. We are in the student movement, the labor movement, the women's movement, the lesbian/gay/bi/trans movement, the anti-war and anti-racist movements. We fight hard for a better life right now, but we know that nothing is secure--not our jobs, our homes, our health care, our pensions, our civil rights and liberties--as long as capitalism exists. So our goal is a society run by the workers, not just as pawns in a capitalist political game but as collective owners of the social wealth.

This is not a new idea. Karl Marx put socialist ideology on a scientific footing a century and a half ago. The last hundred years have seen many revolutions--and counter-revolutions--all over the world. We try to learn from the successes and the setbacks.

You might have read about Workers World Party recently. We've been attacked a lot in the big business media. So we know we must be doing something right.

We don't fit Fox News's caricatures of us. We're independent Marxists who respect the struggles for self-determination and progress of oppressed nations. We try to understand their problems in a world dominated by Western imperialism. We don't jump on the bandwagon when Third World leaders are demonized. Our goal is solidarity of all the workers and oppressed against this criminal imperialist system.

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(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 1:24:32 am)

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Turtle-turtle.
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 1:31:30 am)

Turtle turtle.
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 1:32:06 am)

Heruka:
I died once. It was a a bar in Detroit and I ws hitting on this blonde....
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 1:34:08 am)

Heruka:
doesn't this clash wth the socialist ideaology?

We're independent Marxists who respect the struggles for self-determination
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 1:42:54 am)

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We're the only country that does this, and we do it on an personal level in our neighborhoods and within our families and our schools, and we do it on a global level. The American attitude is that we believe we have a right to just go in and bomb another country. This is where Bush is going right now, right?"
To make this strained connection, Mr. Moore tries to make us believe that the two mentally disturbed high school students who massacred their fellow students at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colo., grew up in a community that has a sinister connection to the military-industrial complex. A Lockheed Martin factory in Littleton manufactures "weapons of mass destruction," Mr. Moore claims. The factory actually makes rockets that carry TV satellites into space. And the very title of Mr. Moore's film is based on a deception. It refers to the bowling class that the Columbine killers supposedly took the morning they committed their murders. The only problem is that they actually cut the class.

Forbes reports that an early scene in "Bowling" in which Mr. Moore tries to demonstrate how easy it is to obtain guns in America was staged. He goes to a small bank in Traverse City, Mich., that offers various inducements to open an account and claims "I put $1,000 in a long-term account, they did the background check, and, within an hour, I walked out with my new Weatherby," a rifle.

But Jan Jacobson, the bank employee who worked with Mr. Moore on his account, says that only happened because Mr. Moore's film company had worked for a month to stage the scene. "What happened at the bank was a prearranged thing," she says. The gun was brought from a gun dealer in another city, where it would normally have to be picked up. "Typically, you're looking at a week to 10 days waiting period," she says. Ms. Jacobson feels used: "He just portrayed us as backward hicks."

Mr. Moore makes the preposterous claim that a Michigan program by which welfare recipients were required to work was responsible for an incident in which a six-year-old Flint boy shot a girl to death at school. Mr. Moore doesn't mention that the boy's mother had sent him to live in a crack house where her brother and a friend kept both drugs and guns--a frequently lethal combination.

Some of the fact-bending and omissions of "Bowling for Columbine" could charitably be chalked up to really sloppy research. (I called the chief archivist for Mr. Moore's film, Carl Deal, yesterday, but he hasn't called back.) Others show a willful aversion to the truth. Mr. Moore repeats the canard that the United States gave the Taliban $245 million in aid in 2000 and 2001, somehow implying we were in cahoots with them. But that money actually went to U.N.-affiliated humanitarian organizations that were completely independent of the Taliban.

David Hardy, a former Interior Department lawyer who delights in debunking government officials and pompous celebrities, has uncovered even more evidence of Mr. Moore's distortions. The film depicts NRA president Charlton Heston giving a speech near Columbine; he actually gave it a year later and 900 miles away. The speech he did give is edited to make conciliatory statements sound like rudeness. Another speech is described as being given immediately after the Flint shooting . In reality, it was made almost a year later. All of these and more inaccuracies can be found at Mr. Hardy's comprehensive Web site.

Ben Fritz ofSpinsanity.org also notes that Mr. Moore has "apparently altered footage of an ad run by the Bush/Quayle campaign in 1988" to buttress his claim that racial symbolism is frequently misused in American politics. His leading example is the case of Willie Horton, a murderer who became a major issue in the 1988 presidential campaign. Mr. Moore shows the Bush ad that generically attacked a prison furlough program in Michael Dukakis's Massachusetts . Superimposed over the footage of prisoners entering and exiting a prison are the words "Willie Horton released. Then kills again." While the caption appears to be part of the original ad, Mr. Moore actually inserted it; the ad made no mention of Horton. (Another ad, sponsored by the National Security Political Action Committee, a conservative group independent of the Bush campaign, did mention Horton; it aired only briefly in a few cable markets.) The phony Moore caption also is inaccurate; Horton brutalized a Maryland couple and raped the wife, but didn't kill anybody while on furlough.

(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 2:17:18 am)

Froupie:
only sloane rangers wear those awful barbour jackets.
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 4:00:56 am)

Froupie:
when they go clay pigeon shooting. or to afternoon tea with the queen.
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 4:17:04 am)

Froupie:
tea and buttered crumpets. and cream scones.
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 4:18:11 am)

Froupie:
with a generous drizzle of raspberry jam over the lot of it.
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 4:19:59 am)

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Until the early nineteenth century, there was no formalized “afternoon tea” as we know it today. The credit for the invention of this truly British institution is given to Anna, the seventh Duchess of Bedford. Because of the long gap between a light lunch and a late evening meal, she is said to have experienced what she called a “sinking feeling” in the middle of the afternoon. To satisfy her pangs of hunger, she asked her maid to bring a pot of tea and a little light refreshment to her room, and she found this arrangement so agreeable that she quickly started asking her friends to join her for afternoon tea. And the tradition lives on at La Conner Tea Garden . . . where our generous portions will easily satisfy anyone’s hunger pangs.
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 4:24:11 am)

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(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 6:18:33 am)

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A Russian man is to sue a seed firm after he was knocked unconscious by a giant pumpkin he grew on his balcony.

Nikolay Salakhov, from Pavlov-Posad, near Moscow, claims instructions on the seed packet told him to expect "decorative vegetables the size of a pear" on six foot-high plants.

But instead the plants produced pumpkins weighing almost 40lbs, one of which fell on his head and knocked him out as he sat on his balcony, reports Pravda.
(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 6:31:40 am)

Coconuts kill bus passengers:
AT least 15 people have died after a crash between a truck loaded with coconuts and a packed bus in Brazil.

Another 35 people were injured and many of the victims were children, authorities said.

Most of the deaths and injuries were caused by coconuts that flew out of the truck, crashed through the windows of the bus and hit passengers, said Mauro Silveira, a spokesman for the Brazilian Highway Police.

"It was like they were cannon balls," Silveira said.

Police alleged the truck was travelling the wrong way near the town of Viana, about 425km north of Rio de Janeiro.

The truck drive and his passenger were among the dead.

(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 8:19:33 am)

(Mon Mar 24, 2003 - 8:44:32 am)