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Detlef Sping:
It comes down to ..The crazy guy across the street, who used to shoot his gun at you, after having his gun taken away, is now making another, even bigger, gun. do you wait for him to finish building it and hope he's not as crazy as he used to be? or do you cross the street and stop him? It's the same thing in both Iraq and Korea. Light em up.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 9:54:21 am)
Detlef Sping:
People dont seem to understand this simple thing 'You're not dealing with rational thinking beings'
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 9:56:54 am)
Detlef Sping:
They are both crazy as shit house rats.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 9:57:40 am)
Winston Churchill:
CHURCHILL:
“I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes”
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 9:59:16 am)
Detlef Sping:
Like France?
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:00:30 am)
Detlef Sping:
Oh wait I thought you said 'unwashed'
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:01:58 am)
Detlef Sping:
I want to make a sofa from Saddams skinned hide and an ottoman from Kim jong il's butt. as an Art statement of course.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:04:55 am)
Myk Murphy:
of course!
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:08:50 am)
Myk Murphy:
sping is correct about the underlying error: diplomacy tends not to work with folks who still want to play the old power politics. the europeans can huff and puff, but they'll never be taken seriously unless they have military muscle. the EU honestly believes that it can hopscotch the "military" part and just be a world power via diplomacy. NK and iraq don't (and shouldn't) take this approach seriously. US power, meanwhile, upsets the europeans as the nasty way we used to handle world affairs. diplomacy and the UN and such... this will carry the day. yeah, right.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:12:46 am)
HANS BLIX:
What the world wants to have are assurances that there are no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:22:00 am)
Vladimir Putin:
The US power is spent. We Russians even have to continue the space race alone and maintain the International (Russian) Space Station until the failing Americans can get above the atmosphere again.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:34:16 am)
Froupie:
bugs bunny isnt a disney character?
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:43:22 am)
Daffy Duck:
Indubitubly
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:45:46 am)
Decoy:
Yeah, not yet ...
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:46:04 am)
Myk Murphy:
no, he's a warner brothers character. the only time he's ever shared the screen with a disney character is at the end of "who framed roger rabbit" when all the toons showed up. (i saw this scene a week ago while flipping channels... my memory is not that good.)
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:46:32 am)
Decoy:
We need to kick some ass if only just to feel good about ourselves. Jeez.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:46:42 am)
Decoy:
Toon town
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:47:09 am)
Saddam Hussein:
I did everything you asked in the eighties. You didn't mind me gassing those Kurds at the time. Where have I gone so terribly wrong in your eyes? Didn't I used to be your ally? You Americans don't know what you want from one moment to the next. You gave me equipment, you supply information and intelligence from your Saudi AWACS aircraft. Hey, you even shot down an Iranian airliner for me. Heh, heh, happy days. How do you think I buy the weapons. You lend me money. I’m not stupid. Everyone give me weapons. French. Germans, British. One year before Gulf War, America sent me helicopter engines, communications equipment, 21 batches of lethal anthrax strains, and hundreds of tons of Sarin nerve gas, from the Americans. Before I took over Kuwait in 1990 I meet American Ambassador, I say, “You got a problem with this?” She say “We have no opinion on your Arab-Arab conflicts”, "even Kuwait I ask?", "especially kuwait" she say. Heh Heh.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:48:11 am)
Decoy:
This is the point where I figure I wouldn't make a viable president - because right about now they'd be trying to pull my thumb off the launch button but I would have supoerglued myself to it.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:49:04 am)
Saddam Hussein:
You send me more weapons? Sense at last. Heh, heh.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:50:04 am)
Decoy:
Yeah, check your radar.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:50:17 am)
Saddam:
My Radar only good as far as Isreal. I not that stoopid.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:51:22 am)
hmmm:
1953: U.S. overthrows Prime Minister Mossadeq of Iran. U.S. installs Shah as dictator.
1954: U.S. overthrows democratically-elected President Arbenz of Guatemala. 200,000 civilians killed.
1963: U.S. backs assassination of South Vietnamese President Diem.
1963-1975: American military kills 4 million civilians in Southeast Asia.
September 11, 1973: U.S. stages coup in Chile. Democratically elected president Salvador Allende assassinated. Dictator Augusto Pinochet installed. 5,000 Chileans murdered.
1977: U.S. backs military rulers of El Salvador. 70,000 Salvadorans and four American nuns killed.
1980's: U.S. trains Osama bin Laden and fellow terrorists to kill Soviets. CIA gives them $3 billion.
1981: Reagan administration trains and funds "contras". 30,000 Nicaraguans die.
1982: U.S. provides billions in aid to Saddam Hussein for weapons to kill Iranians.
1983: White House secretly gives Iran weapons to help them kill Iraqis.
1989: CIA agent Manuel Noriega (also serving as President of Panama) disobeys orders from Washington. U.S. invades Panama and removes Noriega. 3,000 Panamanian civilian casualties
1990: Iraq invades Kuwait with weapons from U.S.
1991: U.S. enters Iraq. Bush reinstates dictator of Kuwait.
1998: Clinton bombs "weapons factory" in Sudan. Factory turns out to be making aspirin.
1991 to present: American planes bomb Iraq on a weekly basis. U.N. estimates 500,000 Iraqi children die from bombing and sanctions.
2000-01: U.S. gives Taliban-ruled Afghanistan $245 million in "aid".
September 11, 2001: Osama Bin Laden uses his expert CIA training to murder 3,000 people.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 10:53:02 am)
Myk Murphy:
i'm well aware of the error that ambassador april glaspie made with regard to her conversation with iraq. some argue that we drew him into action, and i considered that as an option, but it's too reckless a gambit for our folks to espouse. more likely, it was just our State Dept taking its ordinary wimpy approach to world affairs.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 11:04:48 am)
Vic Flange:
Bunny huggers wont ever get it right they are too busy kissing butts, apologizing for homosexuals, and sobbing for rain forests and whales to get on with the clean up job, this place needs weeding.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 11:07:41 am)
Myk Murphy:
that "list of crimes" was written with a classic leftist slant, but it deserves a response. my favorites are "iraq invades kuwait with weapons from US" and "1963-1975: American military kills 4 million civilians in Southeast Asia." it's as if we just flew in so that we could kill civilians. i'm surprised that this list overlooked the khmer rouge slaughter of millions of fellow cambodians... surely the US was responsible, right? pinning the US with iraqi casualties from sanctions is also a scandal... if iraq would have dropped his weapons program during the last 10 years, he could be fat and rich off oil, as could his people.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 11:11:34 am)
Myk Murphy:
someone should spend some time listing all the things the US does right around the world. stopping serbia (after trying to get europe to do the same) was pretty impressive. lately, we've been trying to give food to famine-stricken southern africa, but have been blocked when 1 african nation declined the shipments. the US uses genetically modified corn (which 280 million americans eat regularly without health issues) and the EU threatens to not accept corn crops from countries who might accidentally mix corn strains. the EU only does this because they protect a bloated agriculture industry, but they scare their populace with pseudo-science and rumor, and are willing to encourage starvation in africa.
but, of course, we're the bad guys.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 11:18:39 am)
First Lady Pat Nixon :
And Anti-War demonstrations, we invented them.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 11:22:38 am)
Myk Murphy:
one should also consider the context around foreign policy mistakes in chile and guatemala: the US considered the cold war a very real war. while we can all talk about it now with urbane indifference, back then the threat of communism enslaving the world seemed very real. one should ask the peoples of eastern europe. the people of countries we couldn't rescue when the lines were drawn after world war 2. one should ask them if the US stood for good or evil. mistakes were made, but the idea and intent were good.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 11:24:23 am)
GW Hakkenebush:
Despite Mexico's 3-year-old moratorium on the use of genetically altered corn, scientists have detected genetically modified DNA in wild maize in the mountains of the state of Oaxaca.
Wayward genes from genetically modified corn that is widely grown in Canada and the United States are spreading in remote mountainous regions of Mexico.
Up to 70% of wild Mexican maize now carries transgenes that could only have come from genetically engineered crops. The transgenes, which scientists borrow from viruses and bacteria, have been engineered into GM crops.
The spread of altered genes in the birthplace of domesticated corn could have "very serious consequences." DNA lingers in the intestine, and confirm that genetically modified bacteria can transfer their antibiotic-resistance genes to bacteria in the gut. Using an "artificial gut", researchers showed that DNA remains intact for several minutes in the large intestine.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 11:27:20 am)
Brechvnev:
40 years of cold war was 40 years of peace.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 11:28:26 am)
Decoy:
Yeah, the modified DNA in the corn, et al., is x-pollenating with the wild stuff and making an xfactor strain that can act like an alien invasive strain in the local ecosystems. Canada is all freaked out about this. I read that somewhere, for what is worth. The Monsanto corn, I think it was.
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 12:24:06 pm)
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corn
(Mon Feb 17, 2003 - 12:27:14 pm)