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Queenie:
I have ten days to create a viable living scenario in Los Angeles. If I fail, then we're staying here in Crapsville USA.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 4:28:12 pm)

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Queenies Glean-o-Rama®
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 4:51:36 pm)

Queenie:
I'm not sure what that means.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 5:16:00 pm)

It don't mean nothin would yuh care for a squirrel brain?
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 5:53:19 pm)

Detlef Sping:
No, I think I already have one.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 6:28:51 pm)

Myk Murphy:
a viable living scenario in LA? yikes. let me give it a shot... it would probably involve two big paychecks coming into the house on a regular basis. oh yeah... the whole family can wear those cool designer masks for smog protection.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 6:36:12 pm)

Chewing Wax:
You can live on the beach eh?
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 7:22:55 pm)

Heruka:
you do need to move to LA. If for no other reason than for better job ooportunities. Portland has peaked. I''s all downhill from here.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 7:49:47 pm)

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Compare Costs of Living
To maintain the same standard of living, your salary of $50,000 in Portland, OR should increase to $58,604 in Los Angeles, CA.

Stated another way, it's 17.2% more expensive to live in Los Angeles, CA than in Portland, OR.

Where applicable, numbers worse than the national average are displayed in red.

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Sources - BLS Consumer Price Index, Census Bureau, NAHB, surveys

Cost of Living Indexes Natl. average Portland, OR Los Angeles, CA
Overall
100=national average (lower = better) 100.0 111.0 130.1
Housing
comprises 31% of overall COL 100.0 125.4 164.3
Food and groceries
comprises 16% of overall COL 100.0 105.2 116.1
Transportation
comprises 10% of overall COL 100.0 113.6 117.2
Utilities
comprises 8% of overall COL 100.0 80.5 121.2
Health
comprises 5% of overall COL 100.0 121.9 117.2
Miscellaneous
comprises 30% of overall COL 100.0 104.5 111.1
Housing Natl. average Portland, OR Los Angeles, CA
House purchase cost
median home value - Q3/00 $128,500 $165,700 $200,600
Home appreciation
12 months ending Q3/00 7.2% 6.2% 8.6%
Property tax rate
tax rate per $1000 valuation $15.65 $14.80 $11.00
Other Costs Natl. average Portland, OR Los Angeles, CA
Sales Tax Rate
total local, county, and state sales taxes 5.75% 0.00% 8.25%
Income Tax Rate
total for $50,000 income 4.60% 9.00% 6.00%
Auto insurance
annual insurance for mid-size sedan $825 $710 $1,450
Economy Natl. average Portland, OR Los Angeles, CA
Unemployment Rate
October, 2000 4.0% 3.8% 5.3%
Recent Job Growth
2000 average 1.3% 2.3% 3.8%
Future Job Growth
projected job growth to 2010 15.1% 26.6% 6.2%

(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 7:57:36 pm)

Heruka:
portland a 26% job growth rate? interesting.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 7:58:18 pm)

Queenie:
Well it's only taken me a day to realize that it's virtually impossible to create a viable living scenario in a city that is 900 miles away. Many of the cool jobs say "local only" -- but you can't be local until you have a job and a house, but you can't get a house until you have a job. It's a three-way catch-22 nightmare. But the jobs.... oh the jobs... I saw ten things today I could apply for. I haven't seen ten things around here to apply for in a year.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 7:58:52 pm)

Heruka:
that's older though. it appears to be before the big bust happened.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 8:01:57 pm)

Queenie:
yeah i don't even know anyone who makes fifty grand a year.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 8:05:29 pm)

Queenie:
that's crazy talk!
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 8:05:34 pm)

Heruka:
I bought this cigar. A brand I never had before. and it smells rough. I;m afraid to light it as I fear it will stink up the place.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 8:35:36 pm)

Chewing Wax:
Dutch Masters?
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:03:41 pm)

Chewing Wax:
That's good smoking
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:05:18 pm)

Decoy:
No comment.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:23:31 pm)

Detlef Sping:
Move to Vancouver and become a hemp hobo. I am.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:51:45 pm)

Detlef Sping:
Frankencretien is planning to decriminalize cannabis, there's work for everyone now.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:53:20 pm)

Detlef Sping:
Queenie can you roll spliffs?
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:53:58 pm)

Detlef Sping:
It'll be like Cuba, but with bud.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:54:28 pm)

Thurston:

Is $50,000 a big salary in Portland?
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:54:36 pm)

Detlef Sping:
It's big in Hamilton.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 9:55:46 pm)

Donald:

I've decided to purchase Hamilton with this shiny coin. The local savages will consider it a fair trade.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:02:44 pm)

Decoy:
Can you make good money twisting up the fatties? I read that Canada was the biggest supplier of "Maryjane" to the US now. The Niagra Penninsula is run be noble savages?
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:25:09 pm)

(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:26:47 pm)

Decoy:
I can roll 'em silly; this is going to be great.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:37:58 pm)

Heruka:
Umm no dutchmasters. Jamacian Rounds. Not too bad.
Hemp Hobo. heh.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:40:34 pm)

Heruka:
we can fire em up and order Chinese takeout. this is going to be great.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:42:00 pm)

Myk Murphy:
heh heh, millionaires are kinda funny. speaking of money, i recently used ebay for the first time. buying, not selling. i'm surprised at myself for taking this long to do it, but i'm always wary of financial transactions with private individuals.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:42:37 pm)

Heruka:
I've used ebay a lot in the older days. only got screwed a couple of times. buy a record, murph?

(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:50:10 pm)

Myk Murphy:
nope, just an item for one of my cars. nothing much, but the kind of part that your local dealership doesn't have, and if they did, you would pay an outrageous sum.
(Thu Dec 12, 2002 - 10:52:09 pm)