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Queenie:
"Life is not a support system for art. In fact, it's the other way around". -Stephen King
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:33:13 pm)
Queenie:
That's for you, H.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:33:20 pm)
Heruka:
I've devised a term, it's "emotional immaturity". I use it to describe what's going on to pop culture today. We're a society slowly be moved by emotions. Not understanding, not knowledge, not logic, not reasoning. But emotion. Children use emotons as a driving before behing their behavor. Unfortunately, it;s becoming acceptable for adults to behave in this manner too. I've come to the conclusion the bubble we live in allows us to view the world through sheltered eyes, not really allowing us to grow up emotionally or intillectually and this is why you see people using emotions as their motivation.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:40:38 pm)
bela:
You devised that term?
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:47:28 pm)
Chewing Wax:
He devised that term
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:48:26 pm)
Decoy:
I bet you couldn't even crawl out of a 400 level dance class, Heruka. You get an F.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:48:33 pm)
Queenie:
I've come to the conclusion that the world suffers from a tremendous lack of spirituality.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:50:02 pm)
Decoy:
If you can't connect he dots, the point is dance majors don't spend their lives preparing for 400 level engineering courses. Much as I disdain dance as an acedemic study, Heruka's wrongness is numbing.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:50:28 pm)
bela:
What does Heruka do with his brilliant science driving the destination of humanity mind? He complains about being unemployed and sits his big fat bum on a bar stool.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:51:22 pm)
Decoy:
And if pop culture really mattered, they'd line them up and shoot them.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:51:45 pm)
Queenie:
Heh.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:52:52 pm)
Queenie:
Decoy's really doing it for me today.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:53:03 pm)
bela:
Who are they?
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:53:49 pm)
Chewing Wax:
The soldiers of the industrial-military complex
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:54:57 pm)
bela:
Oh yeah.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:55:33 pm)
Queenie:
You'll be sorry when I'm dead and all this guilt will be on your head!
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:56:36 pm)
Heruka:
My statements are %100 correct! The fact that no-one agrees with me here, just gives my opinion more credibility. And makes a statement about the rest of you! Yes, bela, I am a brilliant mind.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:57:10 pm)
Heruka:
So off to your dance classes, off to your art classes, off to your creative writing classes, the rest of us will just have to keep the machine of democracy and human progression spinning without your help.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:58:49 pm)
Queenie:
I know how you feel.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:59:06 pm)
Queenie:
What are you living for, Heruka?
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 4:59:53 pm)
Chewing Wax:
Clam bakes. Sailing around the world. Don't let Heruka bullshit you.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 5:01:08 pm)
Chewing Wax:
I'm auf.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 5:01:36 pm)
Decoy:
Heruka is Ditzy, auf!
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 5:02:25 pm)
Queenie:
Just as important as keeping the "machine of democracy and human progression spinning" is the spiritual pursuit of enlightenment. Too much in either direction creates an imbalance. On one end of the spectrum, you have rich white men who slave their lives away working for vipers and swimming pools, and think that's good living. On the other end of the spectrum, you have some guy in a third world country eating moldy potatoes and crapping in a jar who is willing to kill and die for his religion. Anyway, considering the importance of metaphysical pursuits, art, music, dance, etc are some of the best ways to experience and share that which is otherworldly. Or some shit.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 5:03:20 pm)
Queenie:
I don't think we're fighting for freedom or civil liberties in the middle east. We're fighting for the right to maintain our American way of life, the democratic and capitalistic lifestyle that the enemies feel is impinging on their lives somehow. We're defending our culture. But what is our culture, really? MacDonald's and Survivor?
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 5:08:36 pm)
Decoy:
The point is... that its all the same and fundamentally just as important and fulfilling to the human spirit no matter what you give your life to. My little beef there is with how human culture tends to pidgeonhole people. Like Heruka, and I 'm sorry to pick, but he doesn't even know that there is a whole world that he doesn't know about, Gosh what a mood I'm in. Time to be a drunken fool ...
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 5:10:21 pm)
Queenie:
Hey hey.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 5:11:34 pm)
Queenie:
Christ. Not only is my friend Robby shacked up with this english woman, he says they're going to move to London and he is trying to get her to marry him. They just met. For fuck's sake.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 6:23:24 pm)
The Famous Adventures of Mister Magoo :
Call me Ishmael...
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 7:17:36 pm)
Myk Murphy:
please try to remember that the military-industrial complex is not a single-minded sinister force. mostly, it's a bunch of people with dull, predictable jobs. come to my town... we run the thing, and it really isn't anything like the image it gets. as for culture, it's too easy to dismiss american culture as alternately nonexistent and xenophobic. it is neither. for all its sins, the culture has many facets, and so it doesn't lend itself to a simple description. i think it mixes freedom, commerce, and opportunity pretty well... but like all cultures, it's a work in progress. when one considers the US and its "hyperpower" status, one must keep in mind that this is the first time in world history in which a dominant power does not seek to dominate. a few people are fooled by the current military expansion, believing that this is the new age of empire for america, but it will not be so. we're witnessing the establishment of true global security. no more shadows on earth in which to hide for those who would disrupt the global flow of ideas, wealth, and people. are there existing inequities in the world? absolutely. is it any reason to keep from destroying organizations or states that wish to wage war for territorial gain or religious zeal? no. the fact that this new reality is scary should not hamper our efforts.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 8:20:53 pm)
theo:
Todays posts have been a good read.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 8:36:34 pm)
Decoy:
Tru, at some point it may be necessary to dominate on a global scale. In a plutocratic necessity, govenment by the enlightened, you need to take a stand. The dictionary defines it as government by the wealthy, but that's not really it. Even if the imperitive stand is immoral, it needs to happen. Kill the fuckers. Fuck popular opininion, hide the facts if necessary. The greater good is seldon identified in comittee, or by a vote. The line between that and power is what needs to be watched like a hawk. Maintain the flow, as you say; it is crucial. When I refered to human culture, I wasn't refering to DC, its really the same power structure for everyone. Even the cultures we don't understand fully, have a sense of what it means to be on top of the pile. Its an archetypal structure that is hardwired into our human brains, into that strand of DNA of which we are a mere reproductive protrusion. The power of myth makes diplomacy like reading a cookbook. Thank goodnes that the USA allows its people freedom, and has the wherewithall to protect it by maintaining the industrial military complex. As Wax suggested, fuck the middle east when Ballard Power Systems takes them out of the energy loop. They'll be knocking at the door looking for handouts like a Mississippi share cropper. And then what? We support the glob like we support our entitled masses withing the US? Probably. Right, Heruka? The promise of cheap unlimited power to run a desalinator turns the useless oil laden desert into a breadbasket. Nutrition and longevity affects the third world and they do what? I don't know. Then what? Please make a decision, Mr. President.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 8:45:10 pm)
Decoy:
Hi, theo. I'm drinking tequila. Forgive my typing.
(Mon Mar 11, 2002 - 8:46:11 pm)