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Chewing Wax:
She looks very vunerable.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:33:15 pm)

Queenie:
She's a very, very conservative person.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:34:05 pm)

Myk Murphy:
I made a mental note to check the lounge to see wax's art photo when i get home.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:35:43 pm)

Queenie:
It's lovely.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:36:00 pm)

Queenie:

(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:36:20 pm)

Heruka:
that's suggestive.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:37:21 pm)

Queenie:
You think so?
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:38:03 pm)

Queenie:
I just don't understand people.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:39:35 pm)

Heruka:
this boat is in Rochester. They want too much for it. But I bet they'll take half the asking price.

(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:40:11 pm)

Decoy:
Hmmmm.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:40:19 pm)

Myk Murphy:
I hope to take some good photos on my upcoming vacation. I finally have a kick ass digital camera for the job.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:40:37 pm)

Queenie:
That boat's too small for you H.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:42:01 pm)

Heruka:
I wish I had a digi camera. I wanted one. But all I got was golf clubs for Christmas. She may be too much like me. I never buy gifts that I know they want. The boat is 27'. I want a 30'. If we're sailing the caribbean and not the South Pacific, I should go with a shorter keel as thewre is no long open water passeges in the Carib. This keel is half the depth of the Tartan 30. It's a tradeoff.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:45:11 pm)

Queenie:
bela i tried listening to that beatles guy's sound files but they were so crappy and staticy.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:46:09 pm)

Chewing Wax:
that's a nice boat. I like that boat a lot. Nice clean lines.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:48:03 pm)

Heruka:
this photo is art. Betha BArnes is the ship. Bulit in Sheboygan, WI one hundred years before I was born.

(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:48:12 pm)

Queenie:
What makes that one art?
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:49:12 pm)

Queenie:
Vs. the color snapshot of the other boat below?
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:49:26 pm)

Heruka:
it's a piece of human history. of times gone past. the shading makes it spooky. it's sailing along but you see no-one. and you know the ship and people have all passed into history. most are long forgotten except hy a few.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:52:07 pm)

bela:
I'll have to get back to you on that second question Queenie.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:54:08 pm)

Queenie:
Ok bela.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:55:05 pm)

Decoy:
How about this, Queenie. Is a film still "art" if Leonard Maltin reviews and admires its cinematography and tight narrative; yet Roget Ebert gives it a "Thumbs Down?"
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:55:59 pm)

Heruka:
personally, I like the feeling of insignifcance. If I wasn't here, someone wlse would be. no-one has ever missed someone they never met. Insignificance is a feeling of freedom. it lets the shackles a desire to make a place in the world fall off. and frankly, while I don't believe there's nothing wrong with making the world a better place, I think in todays self absorbed society it's all people want to do. whether they they do or not. its all about making themselvs feel good in that they mae a difference. its humanism at its care. this explains why buddhism and the whole medtating thing is getting popular. it's all self-worship and "finding your center" crap. It sickens me.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 3:59:56 pm)

Chewing Wax:
I'm putting down a deposit for a black female from the October breeding.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:00:16 pm)

Heruka:
I'm putting a deposit down for two Chinese females from the September breeding.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:06:39 pm)

Queenie:
Heruka you remind me of Jeff Goldblum's character in "The Big Chill".
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:07:45 pm)

Heruka:
never seen it. was he a brilliant but misunderstood philosopher?
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:09:30 pm)

theo:
Hey ya all check this out:
Fans of cult icon Nick Drake have never seen a moving image of their hero at work on acoustic guitar. In the new film, A Skin Too Few: The Days of Nick Drake, director Jeroen Berkvens succeeds in bringing the British folk singer back to life (he died in 1974) by literally recreating the landscape on which he based his gentle but unique songs about time and seasons passing. The rural imagery is accompanied by some extraordinary found audio tape from the Drake family archive."I walked around with the wish to make a film on Nick," explains Berkvens, who rode a motorcycle from his home in the Netherlands to Drake's former home in Tanworth-in-Arden in rural England only to park himself in a pub there to ponder his first move. "It took a while because not only is there no moving footage, but everything was kind of absent. His parents had both died, the house was sold . . . the absence of everything transferred from a disadvantage to an advantage in my mind," he says. "[Nick] was invisible and hard to grasp, so that was the basis on which I started the script."Very little is known about the life of Drake precisely because the songwriter was a recluse. A self-taught musician, Drake left his studies at Cambridge to pursue a music career in London; he shocked his friends and family with the quiet recording and release of his watershed chamber folk album, Five Leaves Left (1970). But even those who worked with Drake, like producer Joe Boyd and arranger Robert Kirby (both interviewed in the film), claim not to have really known him well. Two releases, Bryter Layter and Pink Moon, followed, but Drake, disenchanted with the music business, refused touring and returned to live at his parents home. According to his friends and family, Drake, having been diagnosed as a depressive accidentally overdosed on his prescription anti-depressant medication before putting himself to bed one night in 1974. (The coroner, however, ruled his death a suicide.)By the early Eighties, Drake's catalog (a fourth disc of unreleased material, Time of No Reply, was issued with the box set, Fruit Tree) had been discovered by collectors and musicians (R.E.M. sought out Boyd for the recording of Fables of the Reconstruction). By the Nineties a full swing Drake revival was in effect, culminating with the use of his song "Pink Moon" in a Volkswagon commercial. The time was finally right for a film.Soliciting help from Drake's sister Gabrielle, Berkvens was able to secure the rare home movies and audio tapes that bring the singer's early years to life. "With Gabrielle, I searched through everything she had, letters, tapes, furniture," he explains. Happening upon a VHS tape marked "Nick's Christening," Berkens felt his heart race as he asked Gabrielle about it. "'But he is only a small child,' she said, 'Would that be interesting to you?'" Berkvens gave her a resounding yes because he knew that previous film projects had been rejected based on the absence of moving footage of Drake.Yet, the most startling piece of tape in the film is not of Drake's early recordings nor of the voices of his parents recounting his death (which they do in an interview Berkvens gleaned from a 1980 interview on Dutch radio). Rather, it is Gabrielle playing back a song by their mother Mollie revealing the most shocking new information in the Drake story: that unique sense of melody and composition with no peer in the English folk-rock of his day was most profoundly influenced by an obscure composer, his mother. Gabrielle plans to release the tape as part of a disc called Family Tree.But rare baby footage and audio tape still do not make for a sufficient documentary. That's when Berkvens set about recreating Drake's world of gentle breezes and changing seasons. "When he writes, 'Do you know the land living by the breeze/Can you understand the light among the trees,' it dawned on me that his songs were full of imagery and clues to design the film. Themes like the passing of time and seasons come back in almost every song, as if he is a bystander, watching everything passing by, like a fly on the wall."Shot around the exterior of the Drake family home, Berkvens relied on the natural surroundings themselves, many of them as seen from the vantage point of Drake, looking out his bedroom window. He built a set of Drake's bedroom based on photos provided by Gabrielle, replicating his belongings right down to the sheets on the bed. "A closer match to the original room from the early Seventies, you couldn't have," he claims. "I used the room in the film as a metaphor for protection, a skin if you will, and the windows are the eyes. The moment he dies the camera drifts out of the window into the new day."A Skin Too Few: The Days of Nick Drake is currently showing at theaters throughout England and will screen at the Nashville Independent film festival in April and at North by Northeast in Toronto in June. For venues check www.nickdrakefilm.com. DENISE SULLIVAN (March 6, 2002)
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:11:28 pm)

Chewing Wax:
we thought you were dead.
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:12:23 pm)

theo:
Say what??
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:13:39 pm)

(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:13:44 pm)

Chewing Wax:
Susan said she killed you and dumped your body in the Grand Rapids. Or don't you remember any of that?
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:14:22 pm)

Queenie:
Jeff Goldblum: Nobody thinks they're a bad person. People always think they're doing the right thing, but really all they're doing is trying to get what they want. People always think they're doing what's best, but really all they're doing is what's best for THEM, 'cause by definition, what's best for them is what's best. Now you instantly come up against a question of style. My style may be too direct. Perhaps given my style I seem more nakedly opportunistic or jerky, or... what was the other thing?

Other guy: I don't know. Manipulative?

Jeff: Whatever. It's just that some people's styles are so warm, charming, sincere, or otherwise phony that you don't realize they're just trying to get what they want. So in away, my transparent efforst are much more honest and admirable.

Other guy: Why is it what you just said strikes me as a massive rationalization?

Jeff: Don't knock rationalization. Where would we be without it? I don't know anyone who can get through the day without two or three juicy rationalizations, they're more important than sex!

Other guy: Oh come on, nothing's more important than sex.

Jeff: Oh yeah? You ever gone a week without a rationalization?
(Thu Mar 7, 2002 - 4:14:44 pm)